Nov 13, 2012 2:00pm PST
elite schooling and populist instincts to bill clinton back when he brought his project of southern populist moderation to the democratic project back in 1989, 1990, 1991. so there's a road map here and bob ji jindal i think is the first one to jump on it but he won't be the last. >> but the thing is though -- >> i go add had. >> the thing is that jindal is sticking with the cultural conservatism. he's a brown educated guy with a rhodes scholarship but he's for teaching creationism in school. a big part of the tea party thing has been resistance to opening the doors on immigration. that's something he's not dealing with at this point. >> right. >> i wonder how many immigrant families that come to the united states and want their kids to be doctors really want them to study this creationism as premed. do they want them to take organic chemistry or this other thing, this religious thing, john heilemann? are they serious? do they really want the doctors they go to not to believe in science? it's one thing to believe in your religion, which i do, but to go transfer some biblical scriptu
Nov 14, 2012 11:00pm PST
's being removed from office, as a single side note. i mean, bill clinton went through -- he was keel hauled. >> yeah, yeah. >> this guy get a single side note. >> just a pesky asterisk. but, you know, politicians and presidents for years in washington have been using david petraeus as cover. if you can get underneath -- >> republicans said that name over and over. >> wrap yourself in the petraeus flag and you got immunity from almost anything. >> what is president obama worried about petraeus? >> i think it's -- i think he's being gracious now. i think maybe buyer's remorse, some people once you get into the details of this whacky situation, they're thinking maybe he should have stuck with him, maybe everything moved too fast, maybe he's -- he did what he did but maybe he's the victim -- >> before you jump to that, and i am -- the older i get the more leaning i get towards these -- >> meaning -- >> if it got out he had this affair with the reporter and also got out that the president knowing about it had kept him in office, what would that have been like? >> that would have been bad.
Nov 15, 2012 2:00am EST
-- you won't do it again. >> tell the country that? >> tell the country. it's what bill clinton did. >> but he was impeached. >> under a little pressure. >> let's go to the latest developments in this. mrs. kelley, jill kelley, she's married, she was the one involved in being apparently -- she was scaring this other woman who was having the affair with petraeus. she complained to an fbi agent. this is where it became official. complained, jill kelley, complained to an fbi agent -- >> who was a friend of hers. >> who was being harassed. then she does this call. she called 911 one week complaining, that was jill kelley, tried to invoke diplomatic privilege to get the press off her lawn. let's listen to this. this is a little strange. >> i am an honorary consul-general, so i have inviolatability so they should not be to cross my property. i don't know if you want to get diplomatic protection involved as well? but it's against the law to cross my property. >> this is getting more kato kaling every day. >> that phone call replaced -- >> was she writing, claiming diplomatic immunity from
Nov 15, 2012 4:00pm PST
it in their head this is big time. >> in 1997 after bill clinton got re-elected but before lewinsky, the republicans tried to do the same thing on chinese fund-raising. remember that? they spent the better part of a year trying to turn this into a huge scandal. there's actually a little more to that one than there is to this. this is just exploiting a tragedy for political purposes. >> and here is the great irony. john mccain, who seems like he's the big whistle-blower, going after susan rice yesterday, compare what he said about susan rice yesterday with what he said about another foreign policy expert, in this case condoleezza rice, back in 2005. here is mccain on susan rice. take a listen. >> susan rice should have known better, and if she didn't know better she's not qualified. she should have known better. i will do everything in my power to block her from being the united states secretary of state. >> okay. mortal sin, deal breaker, end of her career because john mccain said she had gotten the wrong brief and delivered the wrong brief. however, mccain had a very different reac